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		<title>By: Artist Boyd Greene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artist Boyd Greene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:18:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an artist I always strive to communicate with my viewer in hopefully a very understandable way for them. Great post and I love the photos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an artist I always strive to communicate with my viewer in hopefully a very understandable way for them. Great post and I love the photos.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 21:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mark,

Maybe - I guess I&#039;m learning to see art more as a process than a product - and it&#039;s a process of creating. I read a really cool essay recently that suggested literally any creation stands as art, if it&#039;s done with love - it&#039;s a love for what we do that constitutes what we call &#039;art&#039; - whether it&#039;s painting, writing, dancing, cabinet making, whatever. When we engage that process without a real love and respect for what we do, for the tools we use to do it with, the materials we work with, etc, then it&#039;s not art, but something else. I don&#039;t disagree that the product of our work can communicate many things to other people - I just question that it must - I think we can make great photographs without worrying about communicating - we probably make greater photographs when we focus on making photographs. Works for me. :)

Cheers

Carl
Carl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mark,</p>
<p>Maybe &#8211; I guess I&#8217;m learning to see art more as a process than a product &#8211; and it&#8217;s a process of creating. I read a really cool essay recently that suggested literally any creation stands as art, if it&#8217;s done with love &#8211; it&#8217;s a love for what we do that constitutes what we call &#8216;art&#8217; &#8211; whether it&#8217;s painting, writing, dancing, cabinet making, whatever. When we engage that process without a real love and respect for what we do, for the tools we use to do it with, the materials we work with, etc, then it&#8217;s not art, but something else. I don&#8217;t disagree that the product of our work can communicate many things to other people &#8211; I just question that it must &#8211; I think we can make great photographs without worrying about communicating &#8211; we probably make greater photographs when we focus on making photographs. Works for me. <img src='http://grafphoto.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Carl<br />
Carl</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 09:15:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, maybe it is artsy talk, or perhaps something else I won&#039;t name...  but I have to believe there is some primal psychological response that makes someone think a photograph is good or bad.   That subjectivity is likely influenced by a person&#039;s connection to that particular image - and how the elements of that image may &lt;em&gt;communicate&lt;/em&gt; to the viewer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, maybe it is artsy talk, or perhaps something else I won&#8217;t name&#8230;  but I have to believe there is some primal psychological response that makes someone think a photograph is good or bad.   That subjectivity is likely influenced by a person&#8217;s connection to that particular image &#8211; and how the elements of that image may <em>communicate</em> to the viewer.</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:08:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mark,

Thanks for the kind words. And sure, a photograph may communicate - but it may sit in a dust jacket, too. As I said above, art can communicate, but it does so by itself. I know that when I was taking those photos, I was trying to take photos, not communicate. Any communication that may have came about is a byproduct - and not a requisite one at that.  :)

Cheers

Carl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mark,</p>
<p>Thanks for the kind words. And sure, a photograph may communicate &#8211; but it may sit in a dust jacket, too. As I said above, art can communicate, but it does so by itself. I know that when I was taking those photos, I was trying to take photos, not communicate. Any communication that may have came about is a byproduct &#8211; and not a requisite one at that.  <img src='http://grafphoto.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Carl</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 22:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl - I beg to differ wit ya.  Take your incredible bear shot you posted recently at the wolf kill.   If that doesn&#039;t communicate a story, amongst many other things about Alaska, I don&#039;t know what does!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl &#8211; I beg to differ wit ya.  Take your incredible bear shot you posted recently at the wolf kill.   If that doesn&#8217;t communicate a story, amongst many other things about Alaska, I don&#8217;t know what does!</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 08:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mark,

I&#039;ve thought about this some more. I think the line about being an effective communicator is a little bit of the ole &#039;artsy speak&#039; thing. I think being a good photographer is about being a good photographer. Art is about making art, I don&#039;t think it&#039;s about communication so much. A good artist makes good art - anything else is nice, but I don&#039;t think art necessarily involves being a good communicator. If communication is the focus, then I&#039;d suggest good art, particularly &lt;b&gt;REALLY&lt;/b&gt; good art communicates by itself. But Artists make art, which is, by definition, more about creating, or creation, than communication. Wanna be a good photographer? Make good photographs - everything else is apple pie.

Cheers

Carl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mark,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve thought about this some more. I think the line about being an effective communicator is a little bit of the ole &#8216;artsy speak&#8217; thing. I think being a good photographer is about being a good photographer. Art is about making art, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s about communication so much. A good artist makes good art &#8211; anything else is nice, but I don&#8217;t think art necessarily involves being a good communicator. If communication is the focus, then I&#8217;d suggest good art, particularly <b>REALLY</b> good art communicates by itself. But Artists make art, which is, by definition, more about creating, or creation, than communication. Wanna be a good photographer? Make good photographs &#8211; everything else is apple pie.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Carl</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 18:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, so many great comments from you folks, it is going to take me awhile to absorb!

@Diane, you wrote &quot;I do think that there are universal aspects to all images that everyone responds to. &quot;

That is what I was thinking also, and therein lies some interesting decisions - first of all do we know the universal aspects (some obvious, maybe others not so much), and do we place any conscious thought about them when incorporating them into a composition?

@Jim: re: identifying your audience - that is one I struggle with.  It is hard to pick a certain group or aesthetic perhaps that you want to focus your work on, or perhaps that just comes naturally over time.

@Anita: I don&#039;t think I have any answers, only seem to generate more questions unfortunately! :-)

@John/Carl - I will have to check both of those suggestions out.  I am not familiar with that writer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, so many great comments from you folks, it is going to take me awhile to absorb!</p>
<p>@Diane, you wrote &#8220;I do think that there are universal aspects to all images that everyone responds to. &#8221;</p>
<p>That is what I was thinking also, and therein lies some interesting decisions &#8211; first of all do we know the universal aspects (some obvious, maybe others not so much), and do we place any conscious thought about them when incorporating them into a composition?</p>
<p>@Jim: re: identifying your audience &#8211; that is one I struggle with.  It is hard to pick a certain group or aesthetic perhaps that you want to focus your work on, or perhaps that just comes naturally over time.</p>
<p>@Anita: I don&#8217;t think I have any answers, only seem to generate more questions unfortunately! <img src='http://grafphoto.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@John/Carl &#8211; I will have to check both of those suggestions out.  I am not familiar with that writer.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wall</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Carl, I agree &quot;Practice of the Wild&quot; is a must read. It&#039;s one of my all-time favorites. There&#039;s another excellent article about artists and genius and late-blooming talents in that same issue, btw.

Getting back to Mark&#039;s thought-provoking article, I have been trying to do the &quot;keep it simple&quot; thing in my photography. But the &quot;keep it meaningful&quot; part is what&#039;s so hard to grab hold of or articulate. What is &quot;meaningfulness&quot;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl, I agree &#8220;Practice of the Wild&#8221; is a must read. It&#8217;s one of my all-time favorites. There&#8217;s another excellent article about artists and genius and late-blooming talents in that same issue, btw.</p>
<p>Getting back to Mark&#8217;s thought-provoking article, I have been trying to do the &#8220;keep it simple&#8221; thing in my photography. But the &#8220;keep it meaningful&#8221; part is what&#8217;s so hard to grab hold of or articulate. What is &#8220;meaningfulness&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 09:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Mark,

Nice post man - great images, and a good essay. I&#039;ve been thinking about this issue a bit lately -- I&#039;ll write a bit more soon.

Hey John Wall - that&#039;s interesting; I can&#039;t imagine Gary Snyder writing ANYTHING monotonous, or flat, or superficial. :) He&#039;s a beautiful writer; &quot;Practice of the Wild&quot; is a must read. I&#039;ve got that issue of the New Yorker upstairs - I&#039;ll have to check it out, thanks.

Cheers

Carl</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Mark,</p>
<p>Nice post man &#8211; great images, and a good essay. I&#8217;ve been thinking about this issue a bit lately &#8212; I&#8217;ll write a bit more soon.</p>
<p>Hey John Wall &#8211; that&#8217;s interesting; I can&#8217;t imagine Gary Snyder writing ANYTHING monotonous, or flat, or superficial. <img src='http://grafphoto.com/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  He&#8217;s a beautiful writer; &#8220;Practice of the Wild&#8221; is a must read. I&#8217;ve got that issue of the New Yorker upstairs &#8211; I&#8217;ll have to check it out, thanks.</p>
<p>Cheers</p>
<p>Carl</p>
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		<title>By: John Wall</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Wall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Oct 2008 23:42:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a nice profile of the poet Gary Snyder in the 10/20/08 issue of The New Yorker. They talk about how one of his poems was panned as &quot;monotonous, flat and superficial,&quot; yet when you take the time to understand the poem&#039;s allusions, you see how beautiful and profound it is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a nice profile of the poet Gary Snyder in the 10/20/08 issue of The New Yorker. They talk about how one of his poems was panned as &#8220;monotonous, flat and superficial,&#8221; yet when you take the time to understand the poem&#8217;s allusions, you see how beautiful and profound it is.</p>
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